Show Notes: Klaus Frimor shares a great perspective on scandi lines and casting (aka underhand casting). Floating Scandi line perfectly suited for throwing smaller salmon steelhead flies. This is done to create a straighter connection between angler and fly by reducing tip sag during the swing. But I try to keep the knots in this rig to a minimum. Cons: More expensive than level T, doesn't have quite the same casting feeling as "T" tips when used with full size spey rods - not necessarily a con, but they are different. The "Sink" system is pretty straight forward. For Summer steelheading 10lb is my go-to, but will sometimes size up to 12lb. Intermediate tips sink at a rate of approximately 1-2 ips. The Larger and Heavier the flies require a heavier diameter, 15#, with shorter lengths 28” to 36” which allows for turnover. This is certainly not an exhaustive list, but these are the tips that I have the most personal experience with. Of course, feel free to reach out with any questions you have. Nowadays, I stick to approximately a 2.5-to-1 ratio. I have snagged and subsequently recovered some pretty impressive logs (read: trees) from swift currents using this stuff. So fret not if you were advised to use a T-11 tip but all you own is a T-10 tip; they are virtually the same. This overall length lends itself well to distance casts and touch-and-go style casting (single spey, snake roll, etc). This ratio looks at "head length + tip length" to "rod length". They also pair great with the Airflo Rage head. If water temperature is in the 30s or 40s and/or the river only has a few feet of visibility, the Skagit head is the preferred head to use with a sink tip and a weighted fly. In case you missed it, in Demystifying Spey Part 1 we discussed the basics of modern spey line systems and took a deep dive into the topic of Skagit vs Scandi heads. I should quickly acknowledge that it is possible to cast some spey heads (mostly referring to Scandi here) without a tip, however ease of casting and line turnover will be greatly increased with the appropriate tip. Compared to skagit tips, Poly/Versileaders make a much more delicate presentation on the water. Thus you will need to either tie a standing loop on one end or use a nail knot to attach your leader. Depending on the manufacturer, level T is usually packaged in 10-30' lengths, with the intention of the the consumer cutting the tip to their preferred length. Klaus is the main rod designer for single and two handed rods for Loop. Switch Rod Video Channel. That being said, here is my two cents on the subject. Consequently, a shorter leader (1 x rod length) can be used as the slower action rods don’t require as much line tension to load as a faster action rod. Most anglers will prefer a 10' to 14' "Poly Leader" with additional tippet over a traditional extruded leader for Scandinavian heads. OPST recommends the 96 grain tips for rods in the 2-6wt range, the 132 grain tips for rods in the 5-8wt range, and the 168 grain tips for rods in the 7-10wt range. So yes, you must have a tip. Pros: So many options, ability to dial in the exact sink rate/depth that you desire, color coded and labeled for easy identification, pre-looped on both ends, better line pickup and turnover compared to regular level-T tips. For example, an angler with a 6 weight spey rod might really want to use a T-14 tip in a given run to get his/her fly down as deep as possible. Commando tips are 12' long and come looped on both ends with identification labels. ... ULS 3D+ lines are a series of shooting heads that are made to only add a normal tapered leader of fluorocarbon or nylon. I use the RIO Scandi 520 grains (38 feet) on the Sage ONE 8136-4 when using a 15-foot (or longer) monofilament leader. A spey cast is deemed a spey cast when the fly line is cast under the rod tip on the back cast (as opposed to over the rod tip in a traditional fly cast), AND is allowed to anchor onto the surface of the water (near or slightly in front of the angler) before makin… Does anyone really need all of these options? For summer steelheading I suggest a quiver of Floating, Intermediate, T-7, and T-10 tips. Airflo Scandi Long Shooting Head Fly Line JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. There are also some similarities. When I first started spey casting, I eagerly filled my tip wallet with homemade 12', 15', and 18' tips in various sink rates. That being said, "T" is a far more popular type of tip in the world of Skagit, so be prepared to mostly speak about skagit tips in terms of T-. Pros: Get better casting performance out of any weight rod due to ability to appropriately match grain weight of tip to grain window of rod, a great tip option for lighter weight spey and switch rods, looped and labeled. As the name suggests, skagit tips are used in conjunction with skagit heads. Back in the day, there were few pre-packaged skagit tips available. Leaving personal preference aside for now, we can use a basic math ratio to determine a good tip length for your setup. Airflo produces tips in T-7, T-10, T-14, and T-18, whereas Rio produces tips in T-8, T-11, T-14, and T-17. To get a longer, finer leader, I just keep adding lighter tippet material to the end. Both Skagit and Scandi lines are shooting head systems comprised of a head, running line, and tip. Lastly, there are floating and intermediate tips available. Airflo FLO Tips - These are my personal favorite tips currently on the market. In the "T" rating system, the T stands for tungsten, which is used in the line coating to make the tip sink. Some of the differences between Modern Scandi Style and Underhand are shooting head length, leader length, the grip, the lift the sweep, hand movements, body position. Whatever you want to call them, these nylon core coated and tapered leaders are commonly used with Scandi lines to both lengthen the head and achieve some depth. For example: If you wish to select a head for a 13’0” 7 wt rod, you could select a Scandi head length of either 33 or 36 feet, and either of these head lengths would be available in weights of 450, 475 or 500 grains. Mostly all other flies can use 8#-15# accordingly, depending on water conditions. Just add tapered leader, RIO versileader, Airflo Polyleader and tippet to this Scandi Head and go fishing The two predominant modern spey line setups are Skagit and Scandi. Leaders wear down after extended periods of use and become ineffectively short, thick, and stubby. Both of these tips have a sink rate of 5/6ips, but they have used varying amounts of line material to produce a tip that weighs 132 grains and a tip that weights 168 grains. The new scandi body which is 40' long as a 10# is the afs replacement to be used with versi leaders. A leader forms the essential link between the fly line and the fly. According to Ritz, suppleness in leader material is only necessary at the tippet, where, in his opinion, 20 inches is the ideal length. As their names imply, these are leader systems that vary in material composition, length (from 6 to 15 feet), and sink rates (from floating to 7 inches per second or “ips”). The tip attaches to the Skagit head using a loop-to-loop connection and the leader attaches to the front end of the tip using a loop-to-loop connection as well. In Finland they are called Puukko but are of the basic knife design we and others call Scandi. In this example, the 132 grain Sink 5/6 tip would be better for a lighter weight rod, while the 168 grain Sink 5/6 tip will pair better with a heavier weight rod. Thus, OPST has allowed us to match the appropriate grain weight for whatever rod we have, while still being able to have the sink rate of our choosing. For these reasons, Poly/Versileaders are best suited for summer steelheading. OPST also has 7.5' and 5' tips available which pair well with shorter spey/switch rods as well as single hand rods. But the problem is that T-14 usually casts like garbage on such a light spey rod.
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